EP 478 Jun 17, 2025 9:00:00 AM

EP478: Jennifer Moss - How To Build A Happier Workplace - Part 1

with Jennifer Moss

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Ever feel like the grind is just… the job? Jennifer Moss, award-winning journalist and author of Unlocking Happiness at Work, says that mindset is exactly what's burning out bookkeepers — the very perfectionists your clients rely on. In part one of this two-part conversation, she unpacks why detail-oriented pros are most at risk, the warning signs leaders miss (hint: it's not underperformance), and the 20-minute weekly check-in that can shift your whole team. If you've been running on toxic productivity and calling it dedication, episode 478 is the one to press play on today.

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Show notes

“ We've adopted pretty bad behaviors since the pandemic of over meeting and not caring about time and not setting our own boundaries, and we have this toxic productivity where we always have to be on. There's a sense of constant urgency that's manufactured, and there's also a lot of learned helplessness where you go in and just like, I'm just burned out and I'm gonna quiet quit. Instead of deciding, ‘Okay, how am I gonna play a role in my own wellbeing?’”

- Jennifer Moss

Award-winning journalist and workplace happiness expert, Jennifer Moss talks about how small business owners can build more resilient, engaged teams—even during times of stress and uncertainty.

In this interview, you’ll learn…

  • The 4-part framework that drives workplace happiness
  • Why certain personality types are more prone to burnout
  • Simple, low-cost strategies to boost morale & team cohesion

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Time Stamp

01:00 - Building workplace happiness
02:00 - Jennifer shares the personal story that sparked her research
03:30 - How personality traits are amplified in crisis
05:30 - The four-part framework for a healthy workplace
07:30 - Why most people don’t learn psychological fitness
09:00 - Traits that increase stress risk
11:30 - How personality types need different support to thrive
13:30 - Why self-awareness is critical for leaders
15:30 - How to recognize signs of burnout
18:30 - Managers often mistake stress for underperformance
21:30 - Why empathy & human connection are essential skills
24:30 - Return-to-office mandates often reduce productivity
27:30 - Actionable tips
29:30 - Preview of Part 2

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EP478: Jennifer Moss - How To Build A Happier Workplace - Part 1
EP 478